It's probably a good design, but lets give credit where credit is actually due since the concept is over 200 years old? Here's some info from Wiki pages on the "Pneumatic tubes" and "Atmospheric railways". Sure, the modern versions being worked on will likely have some differences and new innovations but I wouldn't say anyone who is working on this concept these days is having any impressive leaps of genius? ;-)
"In 1799 George Medhurst of London discussed the idea of moving goods pneumatically through cast iron pipes, and in 1812 he proposed blowing passenger carriages through a tunnel"
"Pneumatic capsule transportation was invented by William Murdoch. It was considered little more than a novelty until the invention of the capsule in 1836"
If the Alaskan pipeline leaks oil and requires massive amounts of maintenance, how the heck are these yahoos going to keep those track tubes sealed enough to maintain a vacuum? Also, where is the propulsion coming from? You need air to produce thrust, but they want to run trains in a vacuum. I guess a better question is how will they stop the train? Electro magnets? There goes your cost savings. Haven't these guys been to Japan or France?!
Its not a perfect vacuum, its just low pressure like you would find at maybe 40k feet. Id like to know the propulsion side of it too. Braking, why not use the air, air brakes and the ability to pump air in to the tunnel, maybe...
+The diamond villager My guess is they haven't figured anything out. Worse, they clearly have not surveyed existing rail systems and the challenges that exist. Building a test track in the middle of Texas is one thing, but look no further than the "high speed" rail that is proposed from Los Angeles to San Francisco for lessons in political frustration.
"The diamond villager"
What happens if I get an axe, a gun or whatever and create a big ass hole in the tube?
What, gonna fuckin reinforce it the entire way around?
This is the perfect way to massacre a few thousand people.
Derpsider ya this company may be shaky we need another company more solid working on this and some competitors. What a boon to our transportation infrastructure and the future !!! Elon musk - the 'man' .
The Germans have already invented vacume tube travels. The Japanese Shinkansen maglev is already capable of speeds over 600Kmh. Envisioned by Germans and Japanese. Not by Elon Musk.
Being born in only 1971 I guess he missed linea magneto elevation development technology in the early sities on account of the fact that he wasn't born.
Hover trains as well have already been invented. In use in 1984 in Birmingham, UK, England.
I was in Homedepot yesterday. I saw Hyperloop in action, right there at the return desk. Come on now, think. Remember bank drive up windows? They had hyperloop syystems too! You would drive up, talk to the teller via intercom, place your check in a small container, shut a door and WHOOSH! Off it went to the teller. Every Homedepot has a hyperloop system for documents to be shuttled back and forth between places on the floor and back into the back offices somewhere. It's pretty simple tech when you see it in action.
Very exciting to think how fast its evolving.
"Once you've eliminated friction and created low pressure in a tube, it take just a tniy bit of energy to moove at incredible speeds". Agreed, but that doesn't make meeting the conditions free of cost. The low costing speed here is the consequence of a very energy eating process. And what about the "tracks" construction costs ? What about environmental cost ?I can't believe how much money is beeing poured in a project with so many unsolved issues and unanswered questions. This all represents to me another aspect of what our society has become. A reign of superb and terrific images and ideas, looking over the horizon with a heart pumped up with hope and faith in humanity. In the meantime, half of the planet starves, has no access to clean water, and the former 1st power has turned into a profit machine, feeding from wars it created. Total disconnection of reality. I just saw on the FB page of Hyperloop a enthusiastic guy from Lesotho proposing his collaboration for free beeing answered that Hyperloop staff is paid with stock options.
well clear theft of ideas but i dont mind -just admit it. evaccuated tube transport has been designed for a long time. but if it takes this version to get it going - its still a great thing. i ran across the idea in zeitgeist addendum in 08 - and it was old then.
"The top 15 cargo ships in the world pollute the world more than all the cars in the world combined. That's a billion cars."
I wonder if governments spend even 1% on trying to reduce pollution from those 15 ships than they do on the cars.
2:25 That is bullshit. I like the hyperloop, 80 percent of transportation related emissions are coming from the tractors used in industrial animal agriculture. All transportation for cargo and people combined is 14% of global emissions while the methane and nitrous oxide emissions form corn and soy fed cow feces accounts for 69 percent.
+junysz Thats actually the main issue in my opinion too. Oil companies have tons of lobbyists and bribed government officials. If it weren't for them, we probably would have already had by now a system like this (or one that provides the same benefits) years ago.
+Brad Pitt You lower a tube in the water with no regards to water. There are pumps to pump out the air anyway so im sure with a little mod they can pump out the water rather quickly too and just mopping it afterwards and collecting all the fish shouldnt be too much trouble for the perks your getting from it
This is the way to the stars! Now someone with the vision, the ambition and the courage is needed to construct a hyperloop all the way from NY to LA - then go a little further: With a constant acceleration of 1.6G over a distance of 4200kms, escape velocity can be attained. You'll need a vacuum tube, a forward moving electromagnetic surge to pull the cart and basically that's it. Could be done for the price of a train ticket per launch. And that hyperloop will repay itself real fast, as many ppl would like to be able to travel from NY to LA and back in under one hour. Could be done even faster. I know this isn't the original design, as Musk didn't plan on pumping out all the air. But it's the best design. Only prob is that in order to do that, America needs another Kennedy at the helm..
+daniel tabrizian Mmm.. Yup, but if they want to actually implement it, they'll need 4 tubes, two to each direction with inter changers between the pair. Cause they'll need one tube for extreme speed and one different tube for acceleration/deceleration, since they'll need multiple stations and the cart won't stop at every station with passengers on board. The inter changers will enable the system to work even during launch - the fast tube will be evacuated, all carts will be shifted to the slow tube and after the launch will be returned to the fast tube.
+Supernir true. - maybe one day no one will ever need to work, and the machines will do everything for us. which also means, we wont need currency in the future because everything will be done by robots. which means humans will have 24 hours of free time to do whatever they want. - Maybe help another country from starvation eventually.
Maybe most of us can pitch in NASA and build a spaceship in 24 hours and fly to pluto or even a different galaxy altogether.
I see a Star Trek moment here.
Where one of the episodes was talking about Humans not needing currency any longer.
They now concentrate on evolving as a species. :)
Maybe even invade other planets :)
Star Wars Anyone ??
+RecordTrance Yes, the same way they will probably lose their jobs in a few years (even if it wasn't to the hyperloop) thanks to autonumous driving.
If we kept saying " but they'll lose their jobs" for the things that robots and computers do today we would have accomplished nearly nothing. Thats the way of technological advancement, and people need to accept it.
This is definitely exciting. Would be very cool to see something between Los Angeles and San Francisco (as I understand it, that is being considered). Dallas to Austin and/or Houston would be cool as well.
+Bernd Lauert What kind of Airport do you go to xD, plus a single bullet hole wouldn't do to much, you would black after the first few shots as is, and your blood wouldn't boil either, we have this thing called Skin that is rather effective at preventing that lol
+Nice Things what? its true, its happened to astronauts a few times and they all lived, however their was an incident where 5-6 people went from 7 atmospheres to 1 in a split second and one of them was literally ripped to pieces.
It might take very little energy to make it move ,but what about sucking all the air out of those tubes? And how does the de/compression works in the first place?
I'd say making it reach 700m/h is the least of their problems...