The 2017 Microsoft Surface Pro is a thin, light, portable and powerful 2-in-1 laptop. It's the perfect tablet laptop hybrid for an artist or someone who travels a lot. But with the Surface Laptop on the market which one is the right one for you? Watch for the full review!
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when my 2 surface pros died during the warrant period . Microsoft replaced both with models that did not have the functionality of the originals. thanks Microsoft . when i squealed about it they just ignored me, and after a lot protesting and demands for arbitration. nothing !Australian customer have no access to arbitration. outcome was suck it up princess. thank you Microsoft. i have 3 surface pros and 3 ipad pros. the surface support is rubbish and they do not give a flying f about their customers.
I wouldn't agree when he said that you should get the i5/8GB RAM/256GB. I have the i5/4GB/128GB Memory and it works out really well for me. I bought the i5/4GB RAM for work and it does everything that I need it to do without having any lag. I am usually an Apple fanboy but I was forced to buy a window's device bc the programs we use are mainly cloud based. Speaking of which, I don't think you'll need more than 128GB of memory bc right out of the box you get 1TB of memory from OneDrive. 1TB of cloud storage is more than what the average user needs and for my needs it's more than enough. I haven't run into any issues yet with my SP 2017 and it works just like a normal laptop/windows tablet. It uses the same programs a normal laptop uses but it's smaller, nor compact and I love how it's really a tablet that turns into a laptop. I did my research and for the price, you wouldn't be able to buy a Surfacebook. A Surfacebook is just too large and it costs a lot more bc it's really a laptop that can be used like a tablet but what I wanted was a tablet that can be used as a laptop. All in all, I would choose the SP 2017 with the i5/4GB/128GB memory. It's more than enough for the average user.
Just purchased a new Surface Pro, i7, 16 GB with 1TB. I purchased the gray Alcantara type cover(gorgeous), and the new pen. I had the older Surface 4, and I really can now see, what the stepped up processor and RAM have done for my own user experience! I'm really enjoying it and it feels premium all the way around!
I do think that the entry level model is still a good device especially if you have a main computer like I do but would not mind something to carry around when your not at home. I bought the m3 with a type cover combo for $699 at best buy.
the Surface pro is so SLICK...literally that it seems to easily slide off tables.
AND THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF CHANGING, ANY PART OF THE BACKING TO A RUBBERY SURFACE, SO IT DOSNT HAPPEN thats what I noticed when I took it to one of my part-time class in September.
It felt it can go literally flying of the desk like a hockey puck., with the littlest nudge My version 3 with i5, just did that the other day. It literally just sliding off a night table / office trolley type of thing.
I went to take off the charger chord, and off the table it went sliding and I guessing flipping over (It seemed to have a life of its own, as I'm very careful) (it was so fast) and catching the sharp edge of the bottom shelf, with my foot half saving it....but the foot save wasn't enough, as the sharp edge of bottom self cracked the edge of the screen and now there is a hole and a cracked screen the screens are extremely easy to CRACK AND BREAK
Only for rich mummies and daddies to buy for their kids, or rich adults. too fragile and not worth the price with a screen that that literally break so easily.
It cost 3/4 of the original purchase price to replace the screen. EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS PRODUCT IS EXPENSIVE, EVEN THE PROTECTIVE CASES...IF YOU CAN FIND ONE...which I wasn't able to.
I wouldn't buy again (AND I DIDN'T BUY BRAND NEW).
Just buy a thin laptop for the same price
I need some advice from someone who knows about all of this. I'm trying to look for a good thin portable laptop. That I can use to browse, Media like download or save my music too. Somewhere to connect my scanner/printer to and a good word document to type? There are so many to choose from and I have no idea what would work for my needs. also something I can download certain apps I use on a daily basis.
Yea fuck these crazy expensive tablets with shit performance. I mean seriously a Lenovo legion y720 gets you a real core i7-7700HQ and 6gb gtx 1060 with 16gb of ram for $200 less and that thing will spank this surface pro all day every day.
I bought 2 surface pros, I liked their productivity. they both failed with in a year . Microsoft promptly replaced them with inferior models. I squealed like a suck pig and Microsoft told me to suck it up princess. I wanted arbitration to resolve my issue but it is not available to Australian customers I asked why European and U.S. had this right but Australians did not. silence. I loved my original devices I hate the lemons they replace them with I feel totally ripped off. I have not turned my devices on in over a year.
I have the Surface Pro 4 w/ i5 CPU & 4GB RAM... it’s certainly a great machine for everyday use. One thing you forgot to mention about the Surface Laptop... it has a special version of Windows 10, which is supposed to run W10 apps only.
Please reply. I need help deciding.Does the Surface Pro 2017 i7 16gb provide enough power to run Maya/Blender/Illustrator/Photoshop,etc.? I need a good device for 3d Modelling, Rigging, Animation, Graphic Designing, and similar tasks. Need recommendations.
I’ve probably seen like a bunch of reviews already, and I still can’t make up my mind. I have a budget and I want my money worth it. I am both an comic book artist and a writer (I use word documents a lot when writing short stories). I also don’t have WiFi all the time... which is a better deal? They’re both the same price, but the Pro needs a pen and a keyboard separately. Idk if I should just stick to the iPad Pro I’m currently using with the Apple Pencil. But I also want a fullblown writing tool. Sigh.
Hi Mat. Can you give me a piece of advice. Im working on mobile apps programming on android studio. Will the i5 8gb ram version can handle coding or should I get the i7 16gb ram? I am also looking for hp spectre x2 2017 with i7 8gb ram with iris, way cheaper than the SP.
Does it do that random updating thing, where it takes freaking eons and decades to update? I’m considering this, a MacBook Air, or an iPad Pro. I’m a writer. I really just need it for Microsoft word. I’m tired of carrying around my laptop. Need something smaller without compromising Microsoft word functionality
Honestly only the surface book is worth getting(except the price) The surface pro is nice and expensive but not powerful enough and very expensive if you want a speced out unit. The surface laptop is nice but still too expensive for its specs and not powerful enough. I just wish microsoft could slash 20 percent off their surface book, then I would really consider getting one
I don't get it, what's type c USB port... Don't all usb's fit into the same port?🤔
So, it seems Microsoft has a lot to improve on, so it wouldn't be good to purchase a Microsoft pro this year. The price is up for a good reason, but they aren't selling the keyboard together with it. The pen, yea it should cost more, I heard it was the fastest in the world, but the keyboard...Come on, guys really? I may not know a lot about computers and stuff, but it wouldn't be wise to get one, until they change. Also, I keep worrying that it'll break, because the back, and the keyboard doesn't look like it'll help out when you drop it. I'm curious as to whether they are gonna do something about that, because I don't wanna accidentally drop it and it breaks into a million pieces (lmao). This is my opinion, I'm no professional, but before you release a good computer tablet, make it look less like bait for people with money. Just saying, I'm not hating on it, because it looks good to me, but based on what I'm hearing from other people, it's not that great.😬
Surface display is very bad . Test in the dark room shown white spots at the corners. I thing Microsoft or Amazon.de sell me refurbished for a new. When I return the first one surface pro 4 related with fatal sound problem. They send me back a new one but with display problem. Still I did not return. By the way box was opened not by me. After two years second Surface pro 4 stop work with permanent sleep of death.
I WILL NEVER BUY GARBAGE SURFACE.
I WILL NEVER MAKE MISTAKE TO BUY PRODUCTS FROM MICROSOFT.
The only ligth is from led on the power supply cable when I conected to surface. Display is totally black and not want to turn it on. NOT ANY LIGHT ON THE SCREEN!
I'm going to TAFE next year and need it for daily use for a couple of years, and occasional gaming (LOL, warcraft, tf2). Which one should I get? The Surface Laptop or the Surface Pro (2017). Not doing anything related to video editing, drawing etc) but I want a lightweight and easy to carry device. Which one should I get? Please help
I hope your wife is enjoying her Surface Pro! I do photography as well. I had the older Surface 4(about a year old), but I struggled with it a bit. So I upgraded to the latest model. I purchased the i7 processor with 16GB RAM. I also purchased the newest pen and the Alcantara keyboard. I am really loving mine! I use it daily and haven't had any problems at all! Great for artists, including photographers.
Worst laptop_surface pro 4:I am a student and uses surface pro 4. Just recently the screen of my laptop started flickering and now the screen is totally unusable. I need to connect to an external display to read texts without the flickering screen.
It just started few months back, I did everything Microsoft tech guys asked including hard reset..still the problem persists...and i dont have a warranty anymore
The customer service are now suggesting replacement- ohh yeah., its gonna cost 450Euros..
Microsoft...u guys made the laptop without much R&D...please own your mistakes..thats what a good company do (if you dont remember).. hope that surface line up doesn't end up like surface phones
Otherwise you will loose your customers...We are the ones giving reviews..( i have already reviewed many places the same way)...Remember-Samsung still has their name even though they pulled out their note 7.
"In a survey of 90,000 tablet and laptop owners, Consumer Reports found that roughly 25 percent of Surface users have encountered “problems by the end of the second year of ownership.” Those problems include freezing, unexpected shutdowns, and touchscreen response issues."( courtesy THE VERGE)..
Ohh yeah I would include screen flickering to this list..\
Dear people of YouTube,
I saw this deal at my local shop; MICROSOFT Surface Pro 4 M3 4GB/128GB ( Intel Core M3-6Y30 version) for $600. Is it still a good option or should consider 2017 version? I will use it for schoolwork, light gaming (dota 2) and internet and stuf. Im still a student so money is kinda issue here.
I was almost sold but then you mentioned it's not good for video editing? Could you elaborate more on this (ex: is it still capable of video editing but it'll be slower, etc) because I intend to use it for lots of design and animation work with Adobe software. Thanks!
Too expensive and still too hot in temp..display adapter lockups too. I don't understand why at this price range they don't throw in the cover and the pen. The Surface Pro book or laptop has lousy battery life when the tablet is disconnected from the base.
I’m sorry but the base model does work for everyday use. Most people won’t get this laptop for gaming and RAM/GPU heavy reasons, mostly colleges and businesses and from what I’ve seen the base model holds its pretty well Day-to-day use wise
I ran a base model m3 vs my i5 with 8GB of RAM. On the m3 I was able to run a Netflix vid in 1080p, 7 chrome tabs, excel, word, and audacity--all at once. It put the ram cap at like 90% but it still functioned really well. The m3 is good if you're not going a bunch of wild shit.
Hey, I am planning to get the surface pro 2017 and I was wondering if I should get the i5 or i7 model. I am currently in the IB program in high school. I use laptops a lot for taking notes, doing homework and almost everything. I don't play graphic intensive games and often watch documentaries on my laptop. Though, I sometimes do very simple video editing for presentations and simple coding. Which model would you recommend? Thank you!
Don't buy the Surface Pro 5 if you want to have something that can write without pen jitter or draw without wobbly pen lines. Having purchased both SP5 and new pen from Microsoft, the SP5 has better battery life, but everything else is actually worse that the SP4 in terms of quality. Screen light bleeding, wobbly pen strokes, calibration of pen introduces major issues, cursor jumps under the pen tip when it goes from hovering over the screen to touching...it's an absolute mess between the hardware. Microsoft has released a product that is actually INFERIOR to it's previous model.
Portability, 5 stars, Keyboard/Trackpad 5 stars, Look and Feel 5 stars, Screen 5 stars, Touch sensitivity and Brightness adjust is fantastic 5 stars, Battery 4 stars, Performance 5 stars (You can do video editing with this model, it has plenty of power), Ports 4 stars (Agree w/Your Review on lack of USB-C), Fan Noise/Heat with i7 non-existent 5 stars, Keyboard/Trackpad (Alcantara) feel fantastic, trackpad very high quality 5 stars. This is a really amazing device. I read where some people complained of back-light bleed and I would say Microsoft needs to take care of that situation immediately. I lucked out or perhaps they took care of the issue. I'm not sure why they even came out with the Surface Laptop either. I disagree with people who say you cannot really use this on your lap. I'm typing this on my lap right now and it is fine. Magnet to keyboard is very secure. I can even bend the keyboard around the back if I want and quickly go to tablet mode. Amazing device, however for this price, it better be amazing. If you buy this model and you do not come away with sheer amazement, you need to return it. At this price, plus extra for pen & keyboard, you need to feel you got what you paid for and I feel that I have. Justifying a chunk based upon the thousands of dollars spent in software I can use (Adobe/Office etc). I can install thes apps and not have to spend $ on cloud apps. Another big thing if your doing an Apple comparison is that with iOS you have to re-purchase the same apps to use on an iPad / Mac etc. So you end up spending more for the same functionality. That was the final straw for me. If you have a lot $ invested in Microsoft Windows software and that software is very good or still relevant and stable you really need to weigh that over moving to iOS. I still think Apple has the phone market, love the iPhone 7 Plus, love chat, but canceling the iPad Pro, no need to review it. It may blossom later and I am sure Microsoft will keep up to compete. If I were in a position to either wait for the next version or buy now, I would buy this now. The improvements over the SP4 are tremendous. And really, what else can you improve upon, battery? I have one I could plug into the USB port, done. Ports? Perhaps but does it hamper workflow, no. Perhaps built in LTE would be a nice request so you didn't have to carry another device but eh..you could turn that device on and leave it in a bag, done, no big deal. Bottom line. One of the best devices I have ever seen. Amazing.
Chillitscape Thank you very much for the information! I really appreciate it. I might need to take a look into the Chromebook because I am not really sure how to dualboot. I might have to do some research 😁.
Chromebook would be great for something portable and inexpensive. You can dualboot ubuntu or some other distro of linux if you want. Maybe a macbook would be great too because of the natural support of unix. Chromebooks and macbooks are great in battery life. This surface pro is basically like the macbook in value... not great. Check out asus ux360 for something affordable. But I'd suggest a chromebook if you spend like ~200 or a macbook at ~1000 remember that microsoft surface does need a type cover. i have a dell XPS in hand with a chromebook from lenovo and the lenovo chromebook battery life is on par with XPS for ~200 and I can write some C++ applications along with running node applications. Compile times sometimes could be faster but def the best value
I really hope they make a surface pro with etched glass screens like Wacom. The matte finish and the better traction on the screen makes it so much better. I really wish someone else would make a type of etched glass screen like Wacom as to compete with their amazing screens. Are there any nibs or anything that can make the pen more lifelike when drawing?
Also what about different pens? Are you only able to use the pen it comes with or can you use different brand pens such as Wacoms?
4GB is good enough for most users. I do not know why so many people are bashing 4GB models. I have used laptops with 4GB and with 4GB, and I ran applications like Visual Studio, Android Studio, etc. No noticeable differences. Also, I can hardly fill even 100GB of my 256 SSD.
Didn't you forget the biggest upgrade which is internally. No more fans slimmer design and increase in battery, Kaby processor more reliable and faster. The only negative is that it's OS is a windows not Mac. MS isn't user friendly and if you want a trip down memory lane you'll see a lot of windows 95 formatting still within its system. Also Cmd is crap compared to others which makes it worthless. The reason being why MS App Store offers Ubuntu and Linux for free!!! Hell they'll even give you bash as beta because cmd blows and guzzles cum drops.
Without MS surface line, MS stock is worthless. MS also got pwned by Steve right before he released a new line up which was the iPhone and etc. cause MS is greedy. It was a proper lesson what MS learnt over the past years.
I had the original Surface Pro. Upgraded to iPad Pro. Waiting for the Surface Pro with Type C and P3 display (compare to iPad Pro or new Macbook display makes this an obvious omission). I will wait for the Canon Lake version 2018.