Should I be a mechanic or an engineer? What's the difference between an engineer and a mechanic? Is it better to be a mechanical engineer or a technician?
1. What is the educational requirement for engineers and technicians?
2. What's the educational experience like?
3. How much do engineers/mechanics make?
4.What’s the job requirement like?
5.What are the advantages/disadvantages of this job? Would you recommend it?
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Education requirements to work at Ford is absolutely none... they hire kids off the street now days that are just coming out of high school lol... I worked at Ford after Tech school and than watched another kid hired at the same time only difference was he hadn’t spend 30,000 dollars on school between UTI a community college and a tech school for paint and body... I made more money than he did but only $2 more an hour... So that’s kinda annoying so after a year of heavy line work I left the dealership and I’ll never go back lol I might try and work at a Chevy dealership one day again in the future but until that day I’ll stick with working at Firestone for now
I'm a technician, though not an automotive one, who always wondered about why things worked. For example, why can cable TV be sent through a coaxial cable and have such horrible picture quality, but at the same time, 4K can be delivered using the same cable. Then I wondered why there is a mesh and shield around the cable and only one conductor. Then I wondered how the mesh and shielding worked. Then I learned physics and electrodynamics and became an engineer with a specialty in physics and materials. Now I help do research in developing 3D printing technologies.
My point, never stop wondering. Curiosity never made anyone dumber.
Very nice description of the fields...and how it's possible for people to follow what they love. I follow cars in every possible way and have working experience from young age...but in my country (european) difficulties are all the way. Near to 30's now i work 40 hours per week 3.8 dollar/h ( bachelor automotive engineer 4year+ seminars+ministry evaluated stamp as car inspector and crash investigator) and almost 2$/liter gas to commute. You have a nice prospective career over there. I like your videos and i watch every one of them, but for me is a difficult path, but still love them! ;)
Worked at an automotive tuner for BMW 's as a tech. It was a good experience. Worked with engineers and was invited to weekly meetings for new and existing projects. It was exactly what Jason descibes. If you're a tech and ever get the opportunity to sit on these meetings do it.
I can tell if someone is an engineer or tradie by their lunch. Engineers have under mayonnaised bologna sandwiches their wife or mothers made for them. Tradies have gas station hot dogs, big gulps and a pinch of skoal.
I really appreciate that both of you mechanic and mechanical engineer try to make videos about the difference between your jobs or works. Greatly I watch this video that make me happy. Beside from the advantage and the disadvantage it reveal the truth from the reality on how it feel, how hard being a mechanical than mechanic
I love to make things but I am the kind of person that wants to know how things works. Example I want to make my own car and at the same time I want to design it by myself on how strong or weak the car I'm making just like that.
So do you think what's the best job for me? Mechanical Engineer, Mechanic or Both
I wish you could reply in this problem of mine, because I'm truly confuse.
Sitting in a lab coming up with these insane theories for improving cars means nothing if the theories aren't practical. I think the automotive engineers for the manufactures need to turn some wrenches, talk to some mechanics, and see just how much of a pain it is to work on these modern cars. Maybe then we can have cars that are all-around efficient and not just efficient on paper.
I would suggest this conversation needs to be updated. I just feel that points were missed as well as issues unchallenged.
A one year program for automotive technology is almost silly, don't you think? Especially with the mechanical aptitude of new students.
When technicians and mechanics are taught "how something works", it's often taught close enough to hopefully get the job done, at least eventually. It's a double-edged sword, how accurate you want to know how a system or component really works.
Automotive technicians and those involved in auto repair far too often simply take for granted just how much they do know and downplay their knowledge, skill and talent; but must understand just how little they really do know or understand.
I would like to see a conversation between a group of mechanics and a group of automotive engineers. Have the engineers/designers explain why they built things a particular way. Did they ever think it might have be fixed or taken apart?
Very good info for kids interested in the field. So many jobs are hard to understand until you start to do them, which can even happen after you wasted years at uni.
I would imaging (based on my own home mechanics) that another big con of technician (mechanic) would be the dirt & cold (particularly in North America). Constant grot under the fingernails not to mention the potential health risks and having to crawl around machines in bitter cold (or heat).
Why not be both? I've regularly had to be both sides. Especially when the part or something you are trying to install either doesn't fit right, or something is wrong mechanically wise.
So, say you're installing a new intake on car-X. Well, typically there's no instructions for things like this, meaning no one gives you an order of events that should take place. On many aftermarket parts, things don't always fit correctly, so you have to take measurements, remove metal, plastic, etc.... Or maybe a hole has to be tapped for a different sized threaded bolt, or you have to make a new bracket to hold your throttle cable because the old one won't work anymore. To me, if I am having to design a part, especially a part that has to swing, or make any type of arch from one resting point to another is requiring a level of mechanical engineering here.
To me, and not to offend anyone here. Mechanical engineering takes much more patience than being a mechanic. That is solely my opinion. Funny thing is I went to college for electrical engineering.
The guy on the left will become a rich man with minimal effort,,,, The guy the Right will work his ass off for the rest of his life damaging his body in the process only to establish middle class or less..... WTF
A great mechanic is definitely someone to stick by. My father always used the same mechanic. I use the same guy and now my son uses him
Three generations of us. He's not the cheapest place around but his knowledge and quality are unmatched. Honest too.
While this video is two years old, I felt the need to comment on it. As an aspiring mechanical engineer (10 years ago), a car guy, potential car mechanic (5-6 years ago), and a subscriber to your channel: I am currently, and since my high school days a technician for different internet and TV/Internet services, and some car sales in between (Subaru Included), very happy with my current choice of career.
I opted not to got to college for mechanical engineering due to financial reasons, and did not become an auto mechanic because I wanted to keep that a hobby (to hell with working on everyone else's car AND THEN have to deal with mine).
This enforces my thought process of why I chose to do what I do. I watch your videos to learn, and figure out the why. And, I feel that makes me the nerd that I am in my field, especially. The what makes an engineer, the why makes a technician.
I enjoy your videos, and have sent recommendations to a few other people.
This video, is my favorite. You may have your S2K, and Crosstrek (vs STi), and videos about how you feel about hitting your garage shelving, THIS VIDEO IS PERFECT. It is why I am happy with what I do. I'm not designing things to work properly under certain circumstances, and I'm not fixing things for people, then fixing my own on my own time.
I have the time to do what I need, when and how I want. Apologize for the long winded, and public comment, but I'm thrilled to have found your channel.
As an engineer, my best tool is the technician I work with. And I'm not saying that in any derogatory, "you're just a tool" kind of way. I mean it in the most humble, "I value your input" type of way. I have turned wrenches and I have learned to use new tools. In my first year as an engineer, I got to try the jackhammer, acetylene torch, and sandblaster, among others. Usually I try these things for no other reason than to demonstrate my dedication, interest, and curiosity to the technicians I work with. Doing so helps me to determine a couple of things: 1) how proficient is the technician, 2) can the technician teach others to do mundane jobs, and 3) is this task more of an 'art' or more of a 'labor'? Over time, you can develop a great relationship with coworkers that builds mutual respect and allows for simple and efficient communication of problems. You get less of the "the technician assembled it wrong" and "the engineer designed it wrong" type of finger-pointing scenarios. There do exist bad technicians. There do exist bad engineers. But when good meets good, careers can be accelerated and innovation can really happen.
I am a mechanical engineer myself. the first job I got was hands-on, in a way I hated it a little but eventually, i understood how important it is for an engineer to have hands-on experience. This allows you to understand the system deeply and quickly. This develops a way of thinking where you combine practical scenarios and theoretical knowledge to imagine a mechanical design which results in less trial and error. I am also glad that I know how to operate any machine without embarrassing myself. I have seen many proud and egoistic engineers who crap all over when it comes to hand-on. Nothing worse than that :D
I've been a Diesel Mechanic for over 10 years now. As a kid I always loved diesel engines. I loved the sound, the smell, the size and even the trucks the engines were in. So naturally when it came time to go to college...I went to a tech school but ended up dropping out because I was essentially helping teach the class... So I dropped out and got a job instead. I have worked at a couple of Heavy Truck shops through out my career thus far and other than my first year or two where I was really increasing my knowledge level... I have HATED IT the entire way and still do!!! The money, or lack there of, is terrible...Sure I do ok by most standards. I make about $60,000 but that is with over-time which of course takes away from your time with the family and also makes you so tired that even when you do have time at home all you want to do is sleep. Charles is right...The Tool truck bills can get astronomical but if you don't buy the tools you're seen as not dedicated enough to your trade and trust me you WILL get passed by for a promotion if you are viewed that way. Even if you are the better choice. No one wants a half-hearted foreman. Now...For me, I personally LOVE tools so I have never had a problem buying the newest and funkiest tools on the market. But my wife doesn't get that...So that is a common area of argument for us. I have a 76" wide tool box that is packed full of just about everything out there and I still need a FAR LARGER box. The problem is now tool boxes have become so ridiculously priced that I'll probably never be able to get a bigger/better box. I mean come on...$20,000+ for a TOOL box?!?!? I only paid $3,500 for my cornwell and that was only 5 years ago!!! But now even Mac Tools wants 12k-15K for one the same size as what I have...
Then there is the toll it takes on your dreams and projects. Of which EVERY mechanic has some kind of project they dream of building or completing...Well at least for me...I've got 2 boats, 2 jetskis, 3 four wheelers, a side by side and a couple of snowmobiles. Yup...Here in Minnesota we like all things outdoor power! And I know that sounds like a lot and that I might be doing quite well to have all these things...However, let me go into detail. The 2 boats both run but are projects as they have NO interior and together with trailers cost me a total of about $300. The 2 jetskis were bought off of craigslist as a package deal with NO trailer for $500. I did get one of them running and have used it a couple times now but the other one needs a $750 computer. The 3 four wheelers are ALL in pieces and not running projects. All of which need SERIOUS work to get into operating condition. And these were basically all forgotten and given up on projects that people literally gave away. My side by side is a completely scratch built unit that I started before I ever had a job and is now able to be started up and driven as long as you don't mind having no brakes yet. And my snowmobiles were meant to be donar engines for a couple of the four wheelers but since we actually have some snow this year have actually been ridden instead of parted out at this point. All of these projects would be a lot further along if I didn't have to work so many hours as a mechanic. Because at least for me. I don't want to put in 50+ hours as a mechanic and then come home and do the same thing. So...Much to the disappointment of my wife...They sit and clutter up the garage where she is supposed to be able to park in the winter. And we also have a big storage bill for the 2 boats and jetskis...
It takes money to make money. Im starting out homeless. I have no place to sleep tonight. any advice on how to further my career? and you cant say "get a job" because employment in the united states requires RESIDENCE.
If only it were that simple. Great channel by the way! YOU are an inspiration to everyone !!! You should design your own engine. You have more knowledge and skills than 95% of the people that Ive talked to about the same subjects.
I'm really sorry to hear that and hope with time things improve for you. It's super unfortunate the way our society is structured that it doesn't do a better job of helping those who need it most improve their situation. I'm not sure where you're located, but I'd perhaps try using a local library to find out what opportunities there are for people in your position. Perhaps starting out by volunteering wherever you can, offering your time in exchange for the basic necessities, or if there are any local shelters which can temporarily help you out. I'm sorry I don't have better advice for you. When I was first starting to find a job I found it helpful to have a bit of persistence in showing you're both passionate about securing the job, but also very dedicated to making sure it works out. Good luck to you, I hope you're able to keep a positive outlook and work through the bad times for an improved future.
I'm a bit embarrassed about the fact that I have little to no experience fixing cars and building things like so many people here claim they did before doing an engineering degree. I'm currently an engineering student and I did join Baja SAE but the members aren't willing to teach much, if anything at all. What's most worrisome is that many of you describe engineers who aren't too knowledgeable with tools as absolute idiots and totally disposable. What do I do now? I don't regret my decision, I love it, from the theoretical all the way to the practical aspect of it, but I don't have an entire lifetime behind me of experience building, fixing, or developing the practical intuition many of you describe.
So why did i just pay $160 per hour for some basic car work? I think this is why trust is low in the industry. At least in the medical profession my patients knew that i had to have made ‘X’ achievements before being allowed to touch them.
strange i see in the states a mechanic is getting around $24 CAD ($20USD) I live in Alberta, Canada and a journeyman mechanic that apprenticed for 4 years will start with a $30CAD($24USD) hourly rate or a $35 ($28USD) flat rate at a dealer ship and we can work our way up to $40($32USD) hourly or $45($36USD) flat rate.
Can you all design a barebones car that really easy to work on? As little electronics as possible. No radio, no speakers, no power windows. Good ac and heating though that wont break easily and is easy to fix if it does break. I can tell you that car would sell.
I'm studying architectural engineering, but I'm more interested in mechanical. So, I do a lot of self study of mechanical engineering. I also like to get erector kits and figure out how stuff works on those. I also make my own stuff, like rods and reels. Just another option for someone who has a mechanical inclination.
let's face the fact. Engineer's salary maybe higher, but engineer's retirement comes early, they need to relocate a lot, your desk could get cleaned any day. Senior Mechanics can write their own paycheck, choose your own hometown, work until 70s. If you aren't good at math, starting career as mechanic isn't too bad at all in long term.
Huh? Engineer's don't need to retire early. Just the opposite can be said, since when you're earning 100k+ it's much easier to set aside a good percentage of your pay to retirement, while it's practically impossible to do when you're making 1/3 less money.
The biggest problem I have with engineers is most of them have all kinds of smarts and can solve any kind of math problems but give them a ratchet and a socket set they're clueless as to what it's used for! And when I say this I'm taking direct aim at these engineers who design these vehicle engines nowadays; they should all BY LAW be required to take what they've designed completely apart and put it back together again bolt by bolt!
I'll guarantee you this much: Once these engineers have cussed like sailors busting their knuckles, cutting their fingers/arms and complained to the nth power about how hard accessing this crap that THEY'VE designed can be they just might make engines a little more access friendly! Are there any mechanics who agree with me on this analogy!?
What should I take if I want to make guns?.. I’m planning on starting a firearms manufacturing company after college (I’ve wanted to make things since I was born and I’ve been designing weapons since I was 6) I was planning on taking mechanical engineering at NC state and taking a gunsmithing course somewhere but as I’ve searched more and more it’s gotten more and more confusing. Any ideas?
oldtwins na I just wanna work for myself and I want the “dream” to happen before I’m told old to enjoy it. I’ll probably start working at a gunshop after college and tinker with concepts at home. I have money covered so really all I need is the knowledge.... sadly I’m a kinda slow learner and I’m not the best at math :( but I am determined for the “dream” to happen so I’ll hopefully be manufacturing guns some time with in the next 15 years....
Work for a company first to learn the trade. Starting any business is difficult and if you don't already have the insider connection (which I assume you don't , sicne you wouldn't be asking for general advice on a forum with unknowns) you are doomed to fail. There are a lot of things that are not taught in a school setting and literally takes years of on the job experience to pick up.
No idea where these guys live but I'm a HD Mechanic myself and it's a minimum of 4 years of schooling here in Canada to get your Red seal. Most of my job is using computers to diagnose issues with various machines. it's a lot of problem solving / wrenching
Engineers learn fancy maths which they never really use, but can rise up the corporate leader.
The technicians/mechanics become masters of their trades with experience and can easily spin the heads of their engineering supervisors, however they don't have the same career opportunities as the engineer.
Techies are stuck at doing manual labor unless they open their own garage or something.
Its a snobbish world. Thats all
Why is it that you have to have your own tools in the states if you are working for someone else's business? Does it apply to other professions as well? This just sounds bizarre for me. Shouldn't the risk and cost for expanding you business fall to the owner of the shop? (I'm from Finland btw is this US practice common somewhere in the EU as well?)
Not sure where you're going with this . Engineers can start their own business too, and the big tech and manufacturing companies worth billions are filled with executives that started as engineers. Engineers can easily migrate out of engineering and into management, it's a simple thing to do if that's what interests you. The engineering degree will simply get your foot in the door to many opportunities. Engineers get exposed to very influential people in the organization who can make things happen to you. There just aren't many high quality financial opportunities for a mechanic.
If you guys had a talkshow I'd subscribe and listen in while I was working lol. I've been into Engineering explained's channel for about 2 years now every so often I encounter a problem or question that is well explained and answered. Now that I'm out of the Military I've become an entry-level Lube tech at ford and when I started I found humble mechanic on youtube. I just realized you two actually met up and had this discussion! I was just wondering the ins and outs of engineering while currently working as a tech at a dealership. How cool! Keep the channels going guys it's awesome that you guys can go out of your way to help educate and shed light on possibly not so well known things within the industry.
I work as a builder. I do wood framing for residential buildings. My experience with engineers is that about 1/2 are qualified to do there job and are humble intelligent professionals. The other 1/2 are not qualified and are arrogant pricks that have there heads buried in their ass and think that are experts building because they have a $30000+ piece of paper that says so. My father is a mechanic and is probably more intelligent than 1/2 of the engineers ou there.
It's the Engineer's job to make a simple repair take as many work hours as possible for the Mechanic. They accomplish this through poorly designing engines without any forethought that they will need to come apart to be repaired.
The main difference between Mechanic and Engineers is that Engineers work at the peak of a field of expertise,
Whereas Mechanics require a less complex but sound enough comprehension of many fields of expertise, including Mechanical, Electrical, Electronics and basic Physics and Chemistry in addition to skills for survival in a hazardous workplace.
Engineers are taught to adhere to scientific laws and standards and materials specifications like an Accountant of all things material, and risk averse,
Engineers also struggle with the terms "Affordable" and "Timely manner" when it comes to getting the job done, a 3 year project is better than a 3 month project.
Some engineers will also attempt to reinvent the wheel when a perfectly good design already exists off the shelf.
After 40 years of Mechanics I took up manufacturing things for the last 12 years that Engineers first said couldn't be built but after I built it and showed them the engineering sums used in the design they approved the calculations just like my Tax accountant does with my books..
That's is when I finally discovered what Engineers really do.
Engineers don't agree with each other which is why if you have an engineer that says you cant do something you may find another engineer that says you can because he knows some unknown knowns the previous engineer didn't know or think to ask.
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